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Post by Rusty on Jan 21, 2010 0:42:23 GMT -6
Ok so I know this is a strange question,and sound rediculous,but this is the 3rd time it's happened on 3 different drumsets. The first a CB700 set,a new rockwood set and now the imperialstar Tama. The wrap on the bass drum explodes. Splits across the width of the drum and falls off in the floor. The rockwoods only wrinkled a bit,the cb's cracked around the lugs,the tamas fell off in big chunks. Now I didn't allow him to play when it was cold. Tonight was above 60 in there when we were jamming. He is heavy hitter,and loves machine gun double bass,and is fast and hard with it.Is this why the wrap keeps busting off the drums? The Cbs would even break the lugs off and we had to replace the lugs. I dunno I think we're going to peel the wrap off and do a stain and polyurethane finish. I mena it's not a huge deal they are a cheap set I picked up for nearly nothing,but if I were to buy a nice set should I get a set that is not wrapped in plastic shells?
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Post by mapexrick on Jan 29, 2010 18:47:08 GMT -6
Wow Rusty, never heard of that. Being it is three completely different brands, you look for a common denominator, which I would guess is the player. is there anything mounted on the bass drums like a tom mount? How about a cowbell or any type of aftermarket accessory? Is the bass drum pedal mounted on the rim with some sort of rubber shock mount between the pedal clamp and bass drum ring? The other common denominator is the enviroment. Although you do not let him play when cold, if the drum is expsoed to drastic temp swings, although nit may seem like the drum is warmed up, could be the wood is still chilled. I am not a guitar player, but I know guitar players open thier cases and let the guitar adjust to the atmosphere / temp. I would imaging drums require that same adjsutment. Only differance is the drums are not strummed, but beaten.
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Post by Rusty on Jan 29, 2010 19:14:08 GMT -6
The toms are mounted through the bass drum,typical Tama tree mount. No other accessories though. The bass pedal is a Tama Iron Cobra, I know he is a heavy player,and I will post a video in a day or two,he is really on his way to becoming a hot flashy metal drummer. The temps may have something to do with it,but mid 50's I can't really see a problem like this. I wonder is the pressure inside a bass drum being pounded by a double pedal that sounds like a machine gun+ temp+age could result in disaster..lol Seriously it's not the end of the world,not like it's an expensive set or anything,just a little curious. We're gonna refinish them this spring when it warms up,and dye the shells and coat them in poly or something that is forgiving.
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Post by mapexrick on Jan 30, 2010 17:00:10 GMT -6
I would guess that the pressure inside the BD would not cause an issue. I'd have to run out to the rehersal studio and check mine, but most drums has a port hole about the size of a pencile somewhere in the shell of the BD, which would relieve any pressure built up in the drum. With temps around 50 degrees, should not be an issue, but temp swings (day to nite), plus dry winter air and moist summer air, combined with other variables such as machine gun / age / etc. could be the cause. Not that EVERYTHING you'd ever want to know is on this forum, but have you tried any Tama forums?
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Post by Rusty on Jan 30, 2010 18:28:44 GMT -6
No I just thought I'd throw it out there and see what I could find out here,keepin it at home so to speak. I think we are going to refinish them when it warms up anyway,been talking about it since I bought them,so now we have incentive..lol
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Post by midnightwinestrat on Jan 30, 2010 20:33:24 GMT -6
Well as long as my geetar finish doesn't explode I am good to go!! But I have seen some of those "crackle" finishes that are really kool ;D
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Post by mapexrick on Jan 31, 2010 20:38:47 GMT -6
I have always wanted to paint my drums like Eddie Van Halen's strat from years ago, with the red base coat with black and white random stripes with a little splatter paint.
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