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Post by vanman on Dec 2, 2008 1:52:36 GMT -6
Well I'll get things started here. I'll purposely not mention specifics, though I read all the rules ,etc. I'm not certain what is permissable and not. I've wanted to be involved in a recording for many years now and finally had the opportunity. Just got to say it was really a great experience. Currently the project is near finished, its going through its final phases of tweaking and then will be ready for CD release in the future. What I'd like to ask, to start the ball rolling from those of you that have done some of this is, where do you like to start. I mean it seems a little like what comes first, the chicken or the egg? In my case we had a small ensemble with vocalists and we did the initial recording live. After that other musicians came in and added their parts. Do others of you do the same, LIVE that is, or do you start with one particular instrument and then add others one at a time, etc?
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Post by Rusty on Dec 2, 2008 2:51:15 GMT -6
I don't think there is a right and wrong way. I always lay down a drum track,just to keep time. I use a PC and Cakewalk Sonor 6. It has all the capabilities you could ever want. Drag and drop in drum samples,and I can change them in and out after the main recording is done. Ok so lay out a basic drum track. Then I usually add the acoustic or rythym guitar then the bass.I might do the bass first,but it's usually second,I'm a guitar player. then the second guitar,piano,synths,whatever I feel is important then the main vocal as a reference point then the backups,all vocals are rough at this point then I do the final solos,and guitar work. I then edit the drum track adding the rolls fills,and crashes,shakers whatever. then I rerecord the vocals starting with the main,followed by the backups. I find rerecording the vocals after the music is done always comes across with more feeling,and not nearly as shaky sounding,the quality is always better for me this way.
Now I haven't done a band recording yet,so I really don't know what to expect there,but I hope this might have helped a little.
I would be interested in hearing a sample of the CD in the future if you can.
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Post by Rusty on Dec 2, 2008 2:58:34 GMT -6
OK I will add this. I did some work on a gospel CD and it was recorded with 1 man,and he did a live demo,just him and is guitar,and then the studio musicians added their parts.I was last to record mine. they didn't use a metronome on the main track,and the timing fluctuated all the way through the cd,in places it was a trainwreck. But that's the way they done it there. How ever you get it done is the right way I think..lol
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Post by vanman on Dec 2, 2008 3:38:50 GMT -6
I'll post when the CD is completed- I know we aren't flaunting our work, etc. but I imagine there is an appropriate way to go about that sort of thing. We did not record with a metronome or click track either. We used one set at the tempo each song was designated to stara at but since it was recorded live, basically, the general feel of the group members, overall, was to not use one at the time of recording. It just so happened that we held together pretty well. There are a couple places that I hope will be ironed out in the final mastering and since it could be corrected with an editing program (I don't know which was used- I'm not into that) they decided that would be okay. As it happened we got all thirteen songs down in about 6 hours I think it was (then other parts were added to that and so on.
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Post by midnightwinestrat on Dec 2, 2008 10:28:04 GMT -6
I did some recording in a studio back when I was in high school, everyone did there parts all at once. But all the recording I have done on the computer I use a freeware program called Audacity, while probably not as technical as some of the payware software it does seem to do pretty good...
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Post by Rusty on Dec 2, 2008 13:26:16 GMT -6
I used audacity for a while and it is good stuff for the money. I downloaded a ttrial of cakewalk and had to have it once I used it,lots of features,it's kind of spendy though. Depends on what you wanna do with it I guess.
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Post by merkin on Dec 2, 2008 17:26:33 GMT -6
Well I've done it two different ways...
Once in a legit studio were we played live cause it was cheaper. ( we were highschoolers lol)
Also I've used a Macbook for just simple acoustic stuff if you know what your doing you can make stuff sound fine with Garage Band.
Good Luck!
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Post by vanman on Dec 3, 2008 1:17:11 GMT -6
I have noticed a lot of people gathering the equipment together for more home studios- I suppose that is the way of things, do a lot of bands actually use this type of studio? I seriously do not know and am interested. A lot of the local talent use home studios for recording their CD's? I can see individual artists doing that but would think a band with all the extra equipment would maybe utilize one of the larger store front style studios. Just a thought
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Post by imposterinyrbed on Dec 3, 2008 10:27:02 GMT -6
I've recorded a couple of different ways. If I'm doing home recording by myself, I will usually set-up a click track first and then record two guitar tracks(scratch tracks), panned left and right. I will then usually go in to fruity loops or other programs to program some drums and other misc instruments, or I will record misc live. Then go back to punch in guitar parts that were off-time or have excess buzz, if I'm recording acoustic.
In past bands I've been in and other projects helping bands get set-up. Get the click track going, record drums with a scratch guitar track playing to help keep time. Move on to bass, then all the guitar layering. Right here is usually a decent time to add in other instruments you are thinking about(that 12-string guitar on verse1, piano part on the interlude, ect.) And finally move on to Vocals.
That's how I like to record(in a nut shell), atleast the order I prefer to go in.
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Post by whiskeyisme on Dec 3, 2008 11:36:33 GMT -6
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Post by vanman on Dec 3, 2008 23:55:13 GMT -6
Thats an interesting article- I can see the benefit of doing something lie that, especially with bands starting out, wanting something to sell at their shows but not having $2,000 or more to start off with a pro-studio cut. Great alternative
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Post by whiskeyisme on Dec 4, 2008 13:52:04 GMT -6
definately
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Post by stinkyedwards on Dec 5, 2008 8:50:24 GMT -6
So do you know anyone who has done the Ground Xero thing? How was the end product (for $150)?
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Post by Rusty on Dec 5, 2008 13:05:57 GMT -6
I have noticed a lot of people gathering the equipment together for more home studios- I suppose that is the way of things, do a lot of bands actually use this type of studio? I seriously do not know and am interested. A lot of the local talent use home studios for recording their CD's? I can see individual artists doing that but would think a band with all the extra equipment would maybe utilize one of the larger store front style studios. Just a thought I know for me,I just have a little behringer mixer I ran into the line in on my computer,and I use a stereo reciever and headphones to hear what I'm doing. A sm58 for recording the live feeds and vocals,and the programs pretty much does the rest. You can record anytime,as long as you want,and get really good results and your in for under $1000. Provided you have a guitar and a bass already.There are a lot of guys in this area that have a home studio because no one is playing out anymore,and you have to have an outlet. I have been in a legit studio a couple of times doing tracks,and to be honest,I can get close to thier quality in my bedroom with my junk.Now a huge worldclass nashville studio is a different story,but the local studios I've worked in isn't worth the money.In fact one hire his out,and records for everyone around,and then goes to nashville and hire a pro to record his..lol
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Post by vanman on Dec 6, 2008 1:33:50 GMT -6
Well, the studio we worked with seemed pretty nice to me, but then I don't get out much and certainly don't know what all is out there, hopefully the project will be done soon.
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